Haiti ties Japan 3-3

After leaving the national team in controversial manner, Marc Collat returned with a vengeance and Japan almost became a collateral damage as Duckens "The Duck" Nazon scored two beautiful goals to remind the Asian powerhouse that CONCACAF is a more competitive region.

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Exfootballer07 replied the topic: #179 4 months 1 week ago
Great article

Rating the new faces of the national team

After a shock elimination from the Gold Cup qualifiers, Haiti calls up 7 new and young players from abroad to face Japan in a friendly on 10 October. The new faces are Jean Ambrose, Jems Geffrard, Bryan Alceus, Zachary Herivaux, Renald Metelus, Jimmy Sannon, and Richelor Sprangers. What do we know about those players and do they all deserve to join the national team? We  look at each player background and performance at club level to determine whether a player receives the call on merit or not. Because all 7 players are under 25, we do not pretend that a player we deem undeserving of the call-up is unqualified for future selection. We understand that some players do improve the quality of their game as they become older.

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Haiti-Goal replied the topic: #195 4 months 3 days ago
I think a lot of guys performed well and Herivaux especially looked good. I am however more impressed with The Duck. If this kid can keep going like that I can see him at Wolves sooner than later this season.
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Exfootballer07 replied the topic: #190 4 months 6 days ago
I’m happy the coach didn’t put him in he it would have been a disaster like trump would have said.
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capois replied the topic: #182 4 months 1 week ago
Well I think only Alceus and Valendi did not get a chance to play.
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Exfootballer07 replied the topic: #169 4 months 1 week ago
Well on Facebook people are talking about this kid Bryan Alceus from what havé seeing from him in the u20and the game vs Columbia this kid doesn’t have it I think we have way better players in Haiti that could have taken his place.
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Haiti-Goal replied the topic: #168 4 months 1 week ago
That being said, we will lose big probably 4-0 or 4-1. Too many new players with almost no time to help them come together. But I won't be surprise if the margin is wider.

That being also, I like some of the players in the list especially Sanon.
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Haiti-Goal replied the topic: #167 4 months 1 week ago
Good analysis, you guys. I believe the truth is Nicaragua made the mistake of trying to play defense to keep the score tied. They gave us too much respect hearing the names of all the big superstars in our team. The second half, they took it to us and I was saying to myself why were they so shy in the first half. I do not know if you guys recalled but I came back here to say we might lose in Managua. However, I was thinking 1-0, 2-1 something like that BUT NOT A WHOPPING 3-0!!!!!

The one thing we need to understand guys is that certain players we consider big superstars actually weaken the team because they are really not good.

It is not a coincidence that since CH came back Haiti won nearly every match he played in as the main distributor while Haiti lost all the games where he is benched or not called up. Also, notice that is true for certain other players like Etienne, Alex etc. Why? Because the players we consider better than those guys are actually not.

To me, our problems are 1) we play the wrong players and we stubbornly refuse to acknowledge that those players we consider better are actually the ones who are hurting the team; 2) for some reason, we keep believing that we are defense only team; 3) the coaches we hire are all bidons and they are too grateful for getting a job to actually stand to fhf when the bozos want to destroy the team.

Goreux, Mustivar, and Bazile recuse themselves from Collat's list

Reginald Goreux, Herve Bazile, and Soni Mustivar have recused themselves from Collat's team of foreign-based players and the supporters of the Haiti national teams could not be happier! "Mèsi senyè", one aficionado writes on the Facebook page of Haiti-Tempo. On Twitter, a supporter writes, "krab yo pran konsyans."

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Nahoum replied the topic: #150 4 months 2 weeks ago
Good neither derserved it. in the list the guys who deserve it are placide, alex, arcus, Andrew, lafrance, Zachary (becoz we needed to cap him to steal him from usa and we also need someone who speak japonese with the group), richelors (we needed to cap him like Zachary), Nazon (not great but he is the best striker we know since Dadou won't take the current Haiti leader Bocius), Etienne.

Players I believe who deserve to be on the list are tiga, herold, ade, paulson, babalito, nerlins, selso

players who shouldn't have been on the list are valendi, goreux, alceus, mustivar, herve, desire

Collat's preliminary list is becoming more 'national'

For the 10 October friendly versus Japan, the newly-appointed and controversial coach Marc Collat published a list of players that left little doubt that he is intended to bring back a team that is totally independent from Haitian football. The list contained 14 foreign-born players, mostly from France, and just 1 representative of the local league. Fortunately some of those players, probably aware of the true reason they have been called up, decide to recuse themselves citing various excuses which has forced the coach and his bosses at the federation haitienne de football (FHF) to turn to some other players. The new additions, so far Haitian-Canadian Jimmy Sanon and Haiti-born Mardochee Pompe, certainly make the list looks more like a national team.

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capois replied the topic: #156 4 months 1 week ago
Sou Facebook mesye yo komanse ap fè pwomosyon pou Metelus kòm yo gwo jwè ki ap make gwo gòl :lol: :lol:

Sa ke m twouve komik se paske Metelus se yon defansè. Gòl sa misye make la se plis yon gòl chans. Misye ap jwe boul nan klib depi 5 ane, se 3 fwa sèlman misye make gòl.

Sa pa anpeche Mesye Facebook yo fin debòde nan bay movèz enfòmasyon. Nèg yo deklare Alceus nou te wè nan mwen 20 an se gwo gwo jwè.

Haiti-tempo tonbe nan pale pou pale tou:woohoo: depi kèk tan yo ap di piblik Nerilia ap vide gòl sou moun nan Montpellier. Chak jou se Nerilia make 2,3 gòl. Haiti-tempo poste foto ekip Montpellier a, pèp la vekse paske yo pa wè Nerigol nan lis la:cheer: :cheer:
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Haiti-Goal replied the topic: #155 4 months 1 week ago
I don't think Haitians born abroad or half Haitians is the issue. I cannot remember any period of times when Haiti did not have at least one player coming from abroad other than during the de facto period.

I think the issue is that now these guys do not just come to reinforce the national team, they actually replace every local player. The worst is that they would also replace even players from Haiti who are based abroad if there were enough of them.

The problems with that is that they basically eliminate national football from the national team, they block natural progression of talents, and they make it hard for Haiti to compete with strong teams because it is harder to get all the players together for long period of times.

As you know USA or Mexico can easily gather 80% of their right from home. Jamaica can get 50% from home to start preparing. Haiti cannot even get 1% because all of its players live abroad and Haiti is not a country where people just go easily.

The result is that we won't be able to discover good local players, we will send less players to foreign leagues, and our team will lose in a dogfight versus every well-prepared foreign team.
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Exfootballer07 replied the topic: #154 4 months 2 weeks ago
im not against calling players abroad even the half haïtiens but when you make a team full of players who’s playing third and fourth division and France where do you expect to go most of this guys wanna be seeing in the international level,Dadou vreman rayi haiti misiye rayi jeune yo bon li rele Bryan Alcaeus eske nou panse Bryan kon jwe pase Nerlin sa neg fhf yo ap fe ah li pa bon.
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Exfootballer07 replied the topic: #153 4 months 2 weeks ago
As a matter in fact Collat didn’t even know Bazile was coming lol till Gaby told him and gabby said he recused himself again so Collat said too bad for him.
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Nahoum replied the topic: #149 4 months 2 weeks ago

Haiti-Goal wrote: I agree the statement is over the board. I myself prefer Arcus big time over Tiga. To me, Tiga is only good in defensive mode. He is too one dimensional. He can do one thing and that is the only thing he does well. He is sterile in everything else. If you need someone strong in the back, Tiga is your guy but if you want someone more dynamic, participating in attack and defense, Arcus and Pompe are better shots.

I also prefer Christian over Donald. Christian has everything Donald can offer and some more. Donald is poor defensively, Christian is strong in that department. Donald does not cross when playing offensive, Christian does that a lot. Donald is a decent scorer, so is Christian.

So, do not let the Facebook guys fool you. Because a guy is in a club from a bigger country does not mean individually he is better than everyone who is playing in a lower club.

Tiga and Donald are decent but they are part of the losing culture we have now. Those guys will lose and go in Facebook to show their beautiful pictures alongside the winners.


Not totally true. Tiga can do all of those things you mentioned but he does not take chances becoz he is a disciplined guy ,he does what he is asked to do. as for Donald, I believe his skills are diminishing and soon he will be like Belfort, a pariah in football but he will keep getting contracts becoz that is the way it works if you have a good agent you will always get a job even in India until you are totally done. Maurice is still getting contracts! in 2016, Fabrice Noel was rumored to be in Malaysia. (Lord, I hope nobody from FHF reads this post becoz next thing you know both Noel and Maurice will be in the next list).
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Haiti-Goal replied the topic: #148 4 months 2 weeks ago
I agree the statement is over the board. I myself prefer Arcus big time over Tiga. To me, Tiga is only good in defensive mode. He is too one dimensional. He can do one thing and that is the only thing he does well. He is sterile in everything else. If you need someone strong in the back, Tiga is your guy but if you want someone more dynamic, participating in attack and defense, Arcus and Pompe are better shots.

I also prefer Christian over Donald. Christian has everything Donald can offer and some more. Donald is poor defensively, Christian is strong in that department. Donald does not cross when playing offensive, Christian does that a lot. Donald is a decent scorer, so is Christian.

So, do not let the Facebook guys fool you. Because a guy is in a club from a bigger country does not mean individually he is better than everyone who is playing in a lower club.

Tiga and Donald are decent but they are part of the losing culture we have now. Those guys will lose and go in Facebook to show their beautiful pictures alongside the winners.

Fabien Vorbe - what has gone wrong?

He is at the prime age of 27 and has under his belt many years of experience playing in various foreign leagues yet to many supporters something is not right with the former U-17 player that once made many Haitian hopeful that by this time we would have at least one truly great striker in our senior team. Unfortunately, this dream never materialize. What went wrong?

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Nahoum replied the topic: #152 4 months 2 weeks ago
what I think is that he wants to play football but his people want him to do something else. do you guys remember sebastien vorbe? he quit football as soon as he completed his studies in usa. this is a problem with kids from rich families not just in Haiti but in many poor countries. the parents usually consider playing football as a poor guy thing to do, they don't see it as a possible career path to make money. in rich countries parents do not have this problem.
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Haiti-Goal replied the topic: #139 4 months 2 weeks ago
Hum I don't think we can blame Dadou for Fabien. If I recall his parents made some pretty bad choices after the world cup. What could Dadou do? Parents decide what they want for their kids.

To me, after high school if a player has skills and there are interests at a high level in the player it is more important to go for the football career than going to college unless it is possible to do both. You are not going to tell Manchester to wait. College can wait because if you do make it big you probably won't need a college degree for work. You already have a few millions saved, hopefully. What do Ronaldo and Messi need college for?

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    capois replied the topic: #156 4 months 1 week ago
    Sou Facebook mesye yo komanse ap fè pwomosyon pou Metelus kòm yo gwo jwè ki ap make gwo gòl :lol: :lol:

    Sa ke m twouve komik se paske Metelus se yon defansè. Gòl sa misye make la se plis yon gòl chans. Misye ap jwe boul nan klib depi 5 ane, se 3 fwa sèlman misye make gòl.

    Sa pa anpeche Mesye Facebook yo fin debòde nan bay movèz enfòmasyon. Nèg yo deklare Alceus nou te wè nan mwen 20 an se gwo gwo jwè.

    Haiti-tempo tonbe nan pale pou pale tou:woohoo: depi kèk tan yo ap di piblik Nerilia ap vide gòl sou moun nan Montpellier. Chak jou se Nerilia make 2,3 gòl. Haiti-tempo poste foto ekip Montpellier a, pèp la vekse paske yo pa wè Nerigol nan lis la:cheer: :cheer:
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    Haiti-Goal replied the topic: #155 4 months 1 week ago
    I don't think Haitians born abroad or half Haitians is the issue. I cannot remember any period of times when Haiti did not have at least one player coming from abroad other than during the de facto period.

    I think the issue is that now these guys do not just come to reinforce the national team, they actually replace every local player. The worst is that they would also replace even players from Haiti who are based abroad if there were enough of them.

    The problems with that is that they basically eliminate national football from the national team, they block natural progression of talents, and they make it hard for Haiti to compete with strong teams because it is harder to get all the players together for long period of times.

    As you know USA or Mexico can easily gather 80% of their right from home. Jamaica can get 50% from home to start preparing. Haiti cannot even get 1% because all of its players live abroad and Haiti is not a country where people just go easily.

    The result is that we won't be able to discover good local players, we will send less players to foreign leagues, and our team will lose in a dogfight versus every well-prepared foreign team.
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    Exfootballer07 replied the topic: #154 4 months 2 weeks ago
    im not against calling players abroad even the half haïtiens but when you make a team full of players who’s playing third and fourth division and France where do you expect to go most of this guys wanna be seeing in the international level,Dadou vreman rayi haiti misiye rayi jeune yo bon li rele Bryan Alcaeus eske nou panse Bryan kon jwe pase Nerlin sa neg fhf yo ap fe ah li pa bon.
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    Exfootballer07 replied the topic: #153 4 months 2 weeks ago
    As a matter in fact Collat didn’t even know Bazile was coming lol till Gaby told him and gabby said he recused himself again so Collat said too bad for him.
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    Nahoum replied the topic: #149 4 months 2 weeks ago

    Haiti-Goal wrote: I agree the statement is over the board. I myself prefer Arcus big time over Tiga. To me, Tiga is only good in defensive mode. He is too one dimensional. He can do one thing and that is the only thing he does well. He is sterile in everything else. If you need someone strong in the back, Tiga is your guy but if you want someone more dynamic, participating in attack and defense, Arcus and Pompe are better shots.

    I also prefer Christian over Donald. Christian has everything Donald can offer and some more. Donald is poor defensively, Christian is strong in that department. Donald does not cross when playing offensive, Christian does that a lot. Donald is a decent scorer, so is Christian.

    So, do not let the Facebook guys fool you. Because a guy is in a club from a bigger country does not mean individually he is better than everyone who is playing in a lower club.

    Tiga and Donald are decent but they are part of the losing culture we have now. Those guys will lose and go in Facebook to show their beautiful pictures alongside the winners.


    Not totally true. Tiga can do all of those things you mentioned but he does not take chances becoz he is a disciplined guy ,he does what he is asked to do. as for Donald, I believe his skills are diminishing and soon he will be like Belfort, a pariah in football but he will keep getting contracts becoz that is the way it works if you have a good agent you will always get a job even in India until you are totally done. Maurice is still getting contracts! in 2016, Fabrice Noel was rumored to be in Malaysia. (Lord, I hope nobody from FHF reads this post becoz next thing you know both Noel and Maurice will be in the next list).
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    Haiti-Goal replied the topic: #148 4 months 2 weeks ago
    I agree the statement is over the board. I myself prefer Arcus big time over Tiga. To me, Tiga is only good in defensive mode. He is too one dimensional. He can do one thing and that is the only thing he does well. He is sterile in everything else. If you need someone strong in the back, Tiga is your guy but if you want someone more dynamic, participating in attack and defense, Arcus and Pompe are better shots.

    I also prefer Christian over Donald. Christian has everything Donald can offer and some more. Donald is poor defensively, Christian is strong in that department. Donald does not cross when playing offensive, Christian does that a lot. Donald is a decent scorer, so is Christian.

    So, do not let the Facebook guys fool you. Because a guy is in a club from a bigger country does not mean individually he is better than everyone who is playing in a lower club.

    Tiga and Donald are decent but they are part of the losing culture we have now. Those guys will lose and go in Facebook to show their beautiful pictures alongside the winners.

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    Nahoum replied the topic: #150 4 months 2 weeks ago
    Good neither derserved it. in the list the guys who deserve it are placide, alex, arcus, Andrew, lafrance, Zachary (becoz we needed to cap him to steal him from usa and we also need someone who speak japonese with the group), richelors (we needed to cap him like Zachary), Nazon (not great but he is the best striker we know since Dadou won't take the current Haiti leader Bocius), Etienne.

    Players I believe who deserve to be on the list are tiga, herold, ade, paulson, babalito, nerlins, selso

    players who shouldn't have been on the list are valendi, goreux, alceus, mustivar, herve, desire

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    Nahoum replied the topic: #152 4 months 2 weeks ago
    what I think is that he wants to play football but his people want him to do something else. do you guys remember sebastien vorbe? he quit football as soon as he completed his studies in usa. this is a problem with kids from rich families not just in Haiti but in many poor countries. the parents usually consider playing football as a poor guy thing to do, they don't see it as a possible career path to make money. in rich countries parents do not have this problem.
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    Haiti-Goal replied the topic: #139 4 months 2 weeks ago
    Hum I don't think we can blame Dadou for Fabien. If I recall his parents made some pretty bad choices after the world cup. What could Dadou do? Parents decide what they want for their kids.

    To me, after high school if a player has skills and there are interests at a high level in the player it is more important to go for the football career than going to college unless it is possible to do both. You are not going to tell Manchester to wait. College can wait because if you do make it big you probably won't need a college degree for work. You already have a few millions saved, hopefully. What do Ronaldo and Messi need college for?

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    Nahoum replied the topic: #151 4 months 2 weeks ago
    they have been playing with that neck thing in many previous maillots. the white t-shirt is the first one where the French flag become so clear. I won't buy any t-shirt under dadou but I would not buy this white t-shirt with french flag even if dadou was not the president.

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