Collat's preliminary list is becoming more 'national'

For the 10 October friendly versus Japan, the newly-appointed and controversial coach Marc Collat published a list of players that left little doubt that he is intended to bring back a team that is totally independent from Haitian football. The list contained 14 foreign-born players, mostly from France, and just 1 representative of the local league. Fortunately some of those players, probably aware of the true reason they have been called up, decide to recuse themselves citing various excuses which has forced the coach and his bosses at the federation haitienne de football (FHF) to turn to some other players. The new additions, so far Haitian-Canadian Jimmy Sanon and Haiti-born Mardochee Pompe, certainly make the list looks more like a national team.

Honestly, both Sanon and Pompe were more deserving of a call-up than the players they have replaced if player performance was the leading qualifying criterion for selection. Sanon earned his selection at the last U-20 tournament where he was clearly one of the best talents in the team while Pompe has consistently been a solid player in the local league and was instrumental in Haiti's victory versus Trinidad in the 5th place Play-off tournament in Trinidad.

According to the FHF, Sanon will replace Herve Bazile who rejects his selection because he does not feel like the friendly match versus Japan is important enough for him to risk injuries while his club SM Caen in playing in the French Ligue 1. To his credit, Bazile is very prone to injury. However, the important question is why a player who always finds a reason to bail out every time he gets a call continues to be on every list of the FHF. Additionally, Bazile is really not doing well at his club. So, why was he on the list in the first place?

Mardoche Pompe will replace Reginald Goreux. The FHF likes to use the word 'level' to justify its choices pretending that the players they select from abroad have higher 'level' than the ones playing in the local league or in the USA. In comparing Pompe and Goreux' respective performance in their last games we can clearly see the higher level argument does not make sense. Goreux' performance has been consistently poor in the past few years. People have come to expect one major blunder from Goreux in every match. However, the solid defender from Don Bosco was a key player in the team that allowed Haiti to win the 5th place play-off over Trinidad and Surinam. If higher level means better performance then Pompe was the better choice.

Ironically, Pompe himself despite his good performance in his last match is certainly not the most qualified for the right-back position. That honor goes to veteran Jean Sony Alcenat who has never been a favorite of the French coach. The Portugal-based defender is by far the most talented player of the national team yet the Marc Collat has overlooked him twice. In his first tenure as the head-coach, he only played Alcenat a few times to calm the critics. 

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capois replied the topic: #156 2 weeks 2 days ago
Sou Facebook mesye yo komanse ap fè pwomosyon pou Metelus kòm yo gwo jwè ki ap make gwo gòl :lol: :lol:

Sa ke m twouve komik se paske Metelus se yon defansè. Gòl sa misye make la se plis yon gòl chans. Misye ap jwe boul nan klib depi 5 ane, se 3 fwa sèlman misye make gòl.

Sa pa anpeche Mesye Facebook yo fin debòde nan bay movèz enfòmasyon. Nèg yo deklare Alceus nou te wè nan mwen 20 an se gwo gwo jwè.

Haiti-tempo tonbe nan pale pou pale tou:woohoo: depi kèk tan yo ap di piblik Nerilia ap vide gòl sou moun nan Montpellier. Chak jou se Nerilia make 2,3 gòl. Haiti-tempo poste foto ekip Montpellier a, pèp la vekse paske yo pa wè Nerigol nan lis la:cheer: :cheer:
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Haiti-Goal replied the topic: #155 2 weeks 2 days ago
I don't think Haitians born abroad or half Haitians is the issue. I cannot remember any period of times when Haiti did not have at least one player coming from abroad other than during the de facto period.

I think the issue is that now these guys do not just come to reinforce the national team, they actually replace every local player. The worst is that they would also replace even players from Haiti who are based abroad if there were enough of them.

The problems with that is that they basically eliminate national football from the national team, they block natural progression of talents, and they make it hard for Haiti to compete with strong teams because it is harder to get all the players together for long period of times.

As you know USA or Mexico can easily gather 80% of their right from home. Jamaica can get 50% from home to start preparing. Haiti cannot even get 1% because all of its players live abroad and Haiti is not a country where people just go easily.

The result is that we won't be able to discover good local players, we will send less players to foreign leagues, and our team will lose in a dogfight versus every well-prepared foreign team.
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Exfootballer07 replied the topic: #154 2 weeks 3 days ago
im not against calling players abroad even the half haïtiens but when you make a team full of players who’s playing third and fourth division and France where do you expect to go most of this guys wanna be seeing in the international level,Dadou vreman rayi haiti misiye rayi jeune yo bon li rele Bryan Alcaeus eske nou panse Bryan kon jwe pase Nerlin sa neg fhf yo ap fe ah li pa bon.
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Exfootballer07 replied the topic: #153 2 weeks 3 days ago
As a matter in fact Collat didn’t even know Bazile was coming lol till Gaby told him and gabby said he recused himself again so Collat said too bad for him.
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Nahoum replied the topic: #149 2 weeks 4 days ago

Haiti-Goal wrote: I agree the statement is over the board. I myself prefer Arcus big time over Tiga. To me, Tiga is only good in defensive mode. He is too one dimensional. He can do one thing and that is the only thing he does well. He is sterile in everything else. If you need someone strong in the back, Tiga is your guy but if you want someone more dynamic, participating in attack and defense, Arcus and Pompe are better shots.

I also prefer Christian over Donald. Christian has everything Donald can offer and some more. Donald is poor defensively, Christian is strong in that department. Donald does not cross when playing offensive, Christian does that a lot. Donald is a decent scorer, so is Christian.

So, do not let the Facebook guys fool you. Because a guy is in a club from a bigger country does not mean individually he is better than everyone who is playing in a lower club.

Tiga and Donald are decent but they are part of the losing culture we have now. Those guys will lose and go in Facebook to show their beautiful pictures alongside the winners.


Not totally true. Tiga can do all of those things you mentioned but he does not take chances becoz he is a disciplined guy ,he does what he is asked to do. as for Donald, I believe his skills are diminishing and soon he will be like Belfort, a pariah in football but he will keep getting contracts becoz that is the way it works if you have a good agent you will always get a job even in India until you are totally done. Maurice is still getting contracts! in 2016, Fabrice Noel was rumored to be in Malaysia. (Lord, I hope nobody from FHF reads this post becoz next thing you know both Noel and Maurice will be in the next list).
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Haiti-Goal replied the topic: #148 2 weeks 4 days ago
I agree the statement is over the board. I myself prefer Arcus big time over Tiga. To me, Tiga is only good in defensive mode. He is too one dimensional. He can do one thing and that is the only thing he does well. He is sterile in everything else. If you need someone strong in the back, Tiga is your guy but if you want someone more dynamic, participating in attack and defense, Arcus and Pompe are better shots.

I also prefer Christian over Donald. Christian has everything Donald can offer and some more. Donald is poor defensively, Christian is strong in that department. Donald does not cross when playing offensive, Christian does that a lot. Donald is a decent scorer, so is Christian.

So, do not let the Facebook guys fool you. Because a guy is in a club from a bigger country does not mean individually he is better than everyone who is playing in a lower club.

Tiga and Donald are decent but they are part of the losing culture we have now. Those guys will lose and go in Facebook to show their beautiful pictures alongside the winners.
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Tini_man replied the topic: #147 2 weeks 4 days ago
Right now, I really would start Pompe over Goureux without taking any thing into consideration..

"" The Portugal-based defender is by far the most talented player of the national team ""

I don't know about that statement in the previous article about Tiga being Haiti most talented players?? Really?
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Boubounay replied the topic: #146 2 weeks 4 days ago
Kan li mennen yon dal moun lotbo sa vle di li pral bat Japon? Nou tout konnen nou pral pran omwes 4 gol pou pi piti.

Si m pa manti seleksyon sa dja genyen omwens 4 defanse ki pa ko janm jwe ansanm, 3 mitan teren ki pa ko janm jwe ansanm ak 3 atakan ki pa ko janm jwe ansanm! Nou konnen pap gen antrenman paske Dadou pa fe bagay konsa anko.

Mwen pa we kijan pou Japon pa make omwens 4-0!

Japon se Lachin! Menm sa nou te pran nan men Kore a, se pi red nan men Japon. Japon pi gwo ekip.
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Boubounay replied the topic: #145 2 weeks 4 days ago
M pa konn si se dekourajman m remake prske tout moun bèbè fwa sa sou seleksyon an. Mwen chwa sa ba mwen tet fe mal. Se yon amical nou pral jwe si Dadou pa te mechan eske se pa moman pou li ta bay pep la sa li vle a? Tout moun konnen nan match amical se nan okazyon sa yo ou tou pwofite lanse jwe lakay ou espesyalman timoun ki ap vini yo.

Dadou se yon neg ki mechan a morrrrt! Misye rayi peyi a, li rayi pitit peyi a, li rayi seleksyon an.
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Boubounay replied the topic: #144 2 weeks 4 days ago
I was wondering that. Collat, Neveu, ak titonton Haiti a yo tout gen menm tip lis sa yo. Se pa antrenè yo vre ki chwazi jwè. Nou sonje kan yon jounalis mande Neveu poukisa li pa rele Charles Herold, Neveu mande ki moun ki Chaleres Herold la paske yo pa janm pale li de Charles Herold.

Lis yo se Dadou ki bay yo.
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Exfootballer07 replied the topic: #143 2 weeks 4 days ago
Collât Saïd in totalmix that he doesn5 have anything to do with the list
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Haiti-Goal replied the topic: #142 2 weeks 6 days ago
It doesn't matter anymore who can play good football or not. They just call the same small group of players they know. If you know someone in fhf you have a better chance to get called up if you tell them you were born overseas than bother to show them if you can play or not.

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    capois replied the topic: #156 2 weeks 2 days ago
    Sou Facebook mesye yo komanse ap fè pwomosyon pou Metelus kòm yo gwo jwè ki ap make gwo gòl :lol: :lol:

    Sa ke m twouve komik se paske Metelus se yon defansè. Gòl sa misye make la se plis yon gòl chans. Misye ap jwe boul nan klib depi 5 ane, se 3 fwa sèlman misye make gòl.

    Sa pa anpeche Mesye Facebook yo fin debòde nan bay movèz enfòmasyon. Nèg yo deklare Alceus nou te wè nan mwen 20 an se gwo gwo jwè.

    Haiti-tempo tonbe nan pale pou pale tou:woohoo: depi kèk tan yo ap di piblik Nerilia ap vide gòl sou moun nan Montpellier. Chak jou se Nerilia make 2,3 gòl. Haiti-tempo poste foto ekip Montpellier a, pèp la vekse paske yo pa wè Nerigol nan lis la:cheer: :cheer:
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    Haiti-Goal replied the topic: #155 2 weeks 2 days ago
    I don't think Haitians born abroad or half Haitians is the issue. I cannot remember any period of times when Haiti did not have at least one player coming from abroad other than during the de facto period.

    I think the issue is that now these guys do not just come to reinforce the national team, they actually replace every local player. The worst is that they would also replace even players from Haiti who are based abroad if there were enough of them.

    The problems with that is that they basically eliminate national football from the national team, they block natural progression of talents, and they make it hard for Haiti to compete with strong teams because it is harder to get all the players together for long period of times.

    As you know USA or Mexico can easily gather 80% of their right from home. Jamaica can get 50% from home to start preparing. Haiti cannot even get 1% because all of its players live abroad and Haiti is not a country where people just go easily.

    The result is that we won't be able to discover good local players, we will send less players to foreign leagues, and our team will lose in a dogfight versus every well-prepared foreign team.
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    Exfootballer07 replied the topic: #154 2 weeks 3 days ago
    im not against calling players abroad even the half haïtiens but when you make a team full of players who’s playing third and fourth division and France where do you expect to go most of this guys wanna be seeing in the international level,Dadou vreman rayi haiti misiye rayi jeune yo bon li rele Bryan Alcaeus eske nou panse Bryan kon jwe pase Nerlin sa neg fhf yo ap fe ah li pa bon.
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    Exfootballer07 replied the topic: #153 2 weeks 3 days ago
    As a matter in fact Collat didn’t even know Bazile was coming lol till Gaby told him and gabby said he recused himself again so Collat said too bad for him.
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    Nahoum replied the topic: #149 2 weeks 4 days ago

    Haiti-Goal wrote: I agree the statement is over the board. I myself prefer Arcus big time over Tiga. To me, Tiga is only good in defensive mode. He is too one dimensional. He can do one thing and that is the only thing he does well. He is sterile in everything else. If you need someone strong in the back, Tiga is your guy but if you want someone more dynamic, participating in attack and defense, Arcus and Pompe are better shots.

    I also prefer Christian over Donald. Christian has everything Donald can offer and some more. Donald is poor defensively, Christian is strong in that department. Donald does not cross when playing offensive, Christian does that a lot. Donald is a decent scorer, so is Christian.

    So, do not let the Facebook guys fool you. Because a guy is in a club from a bigger country does not mean individually he is better than everyone who is playing in a lower club.

    Tiga and Donald are decent but they are part of the losing culture we have now. Those guys will lose and go in Facebook to show their beautiful pictures alongside the winners.


    Not totally true. Tiga can do all of those things you mentioned but he does not take chances becoz he is a disciplined guy ,he does what he is asked to do. as for Donald, I believe his skills are diminishing and soon he will be like Belfort, a pariah in football but he will keep getting contracts becoz that is the way it works if you have a good agent you will always get a job even in India until you are totally done. Maurice is still getting contracts! in 2016, Fabrice Noel was rumored to be in Malaysia. (Lord, I hope nobody from FHF reads this post becoz next thing you know both Noel and Maurice will be in the next list).
    Haiti-Goal's Avatar
    Haiti-Goal replied the topic: #148 2 weeks 4 days ago
    I agree the statement is over the board. I myself prefer Arcus big time over Tiga. To me, Tiga is only good in defensive mode. He is too one dimensional. He can do one thing and that is the only thing he does well. He is sterile in everything else. If you need someone strong in the back, Tiga is your guy but if you want someone more dynamic, participating in attack and defense, Arcus and Pompe are better shots.

    I also prefer Christian over Donald. Christian has everything Donald can offer and some more. Donald is poor defensively, Christian is strong in that department. Donald does not cross when playing offensive, Christian does that a lot. Donald is a decent scorer, so is Christian.

    So, do not let the Facebook guys fool you. Because a guy is in a club from a bigger country does not mean individually he is better than everyone who is playing in a lower club.

    Tiga and Donald are decent but they are part of the losing culture we have now. Those guys will lose and go in Facebook to show their beautiful pictures alongside the winners.
    Tini_man's Avatar
    Tini_man replied the topic: #147 2 weeks 4 days ago
    Right now, I really would start Pompe over Goureux without taking any thing into consideration..

    "" The Portugal-based defender is by far the most talented player of the national team ""

    I don't know about that statement in the previous article about Tiga being Haiti most talented players?? Really?
    Boubounay 's Avatar
    Boubounay replied the topic: #146 2 weeks 4 days ago
    Kan li mennen yon dal moun lotbo sa vle di li pral bat Japon? Nou tout konnen nou pral pran omwes 4 gol pou pi piti.

    Si m pa manti seleksyon sa dja genyen omwens 4 defanse ki pa ko janm jwe ansanm, 3 mitan teren ki pa ko janm jwe ansanm ak 3 atakan ki pa ko janm jwe ansanm! Nou konnen pap gen antrenman paske Dadou pa fe bagay konsa anko.

    Mwen pa we kijan pou Japon pa make omwens 4-0!

    Japon se Lachin! Menm sa nou te pran nan men Kore a, se pi red nan men Japon. Japon pi gwo ekip.
    Boubounay 's Avatar
    Boubounay replied the topic: #145 2 weeks 4 days ago
    M pa konn si se dekourajman m remake prske tout moun bèbè fwa sa sou seleksyon an. Mwen chwa sa ba mwen tet fe mal. Se yon amical nou pral jwe si Dadou pa te mechan eske se pa moman pou li ta bay pep la sa li vle a? Tout moun konnen nan match amical se nan okazyon sa yo ou tou pwofite lanse jwe lakay ou espesyalman timoun ki ap vini yo.

    Dadou se yon neg ki mechan a morrrrt! Misye rayi peyi a, li rayi pitit peyi a, li rayi seleksyon an.
    Boubounay 's Avatar
    Boubounay replied the topic: #144 2 weeks 4 days ago
    I was wondering that. Collat, Neveu, ak titonton Haiti a yo tout gen menm tip lis sa yo. Se pa antrenè yo vre ki chwazi jwè. Nou sonje kan yon jounalis mande Neveu poukisa li pa rele Charles Herold, Neveu mande ki moun ki Chaleres Herold la paske yo pa janm pale li de Charles Herold.

    Lis yo se Dadou ki bay yo.
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    Exfootballer07 replied the topic: #143 2 weeks 4 days ago
    Collât Saïd in totalmix that he doesn5 have anything to do with the list
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    Haiti-Goal replied the topic: #142 2 weeks 6 days ago
    It doesn't matter anymore who can play good football or not. They just call the same small group of players they know. If you know someone in fhf you have a better chance to get called up if you tell them you were born overseas than bother to show them if you can play or not.

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